Names without the AI: a built-in name generator with extensive lists (hybrid) #1257
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Owner's decision, 2026-10-28: build a list-based name generator, in the style of fantasynamegenerators.com, into Prep → Names. Hybrid: names always come from the generator, and an AI (when configured) only writes a description of a name the GM picks. For v4.7.0.
Why:
Today:
generation_servicetoolnames→audio_service.generate_name_options()(LLM, JSON schema, names plus a 1–2 sentence description per kind), pre-fetched into a Redis pool byplanning_tasks.prefetch_name_options. The UI ispages/prep/tools/Names.jsx, with kinds fromENTRY_TYPE_LABELSand an optional "feel". Instant NPC (instant_npc) is separate and out of scope here.Requirements:
Plan:
The prefetch pool for names can go once names stop needing the LLM.
Plan step 1: a sampler for the owner to judge by ear. Name Sampler artifact: https://claude.ai/artifact/QTWCeFLowhFfgxwPCFGuKh (private to the owner). It's a JS prototype of the engine with five styles, all lists original:
In the sampler:
votes(doc<style>~<slug>) andnotes/<style>.Next: read the marks and notes, tune these lists, then draw the drawer and build the real engine (Python, seeded, plus the campaign memory).
Owner's criterion (2026-10-28): a name must flow off the tongue. Their one 👎 so far, "Godgyth Linshaw", was "very awkward to say", not a problem with any single piece. So the real engine needs flow rules applied at every join, beyond curating lists. A draw that breaks one is thrown away and redrawn:
d|g,th|g,t|ch,k|g, three or more consonants running across a join), using an allow-list of easy joins (l|w,n|d,r|th…).-gyth Lin-is fine;-wyn Wyn-is not).God|gyth).The same criterion should be stated to testers: "👍 if it fits the style and is easy to say". This is a candidate change to step 3 on the Names page, pending the owner.
At the owner's request (2 Nov), the scoring page now offers ten more kinds, 15 in all:
Every person style also has a flow check at its joins, following the owner's note on "Godgyth". It's live at the same link, with the PR in #1314. The marks feed the lists the real generator will use.
The owner's notes after a first pass through every section of the names page (2026-11-03), and what changes on the feedback site:
Votes already cast stay valid. The old ids (
org,inn,ship,geo,town) remain accepted on the server, so no rater's saved document is refused. The page no longer offers them, and the admin readout lists them as retired with their counts.The flow rules at piece joins apply to every new style. A "whole company" generator (size, trade, owner and staff, all offline) is a later enhancement, filed separately.
The owner's answer to Q219 (2026-11-03): all of them. These kinds join the names page in the same change as the splits, for rating:
The ratings so far (read-only tally of the feedback data, 2026-11-03; two raters):
Next:
Q228 asks whether the unrated kinds go into the first build.
The owner's answer to Q228 (2026-11-03): (a). Every kind goes in the first build, including the ones not yet rated. Ratings keep tuning them afterwards as list edits.
Engine requirement from the owner's follow-up: company, guild, church and noble names often include their town or region. Build every pattern with a place slot (a guild's town, a house's seat, a company's region, a temple's parish) so the slot can be filled from outside with a real place in the campaign, falling back to a generated name. Using it ("for: Kettlebridge" in the drawer; "roll up Kettlebridge" in #1328) is a later enhancement, but the slot is in the engine from the start, so it needs no rewrite.
The owner's answers to Q229–Q231 (2026-11-03), recorded as D331 (D327–D330 cover #1328 and Q228; commit
7abcca14):Building now on
feat/1257-names-in-prep, with the server and the drawer built in parallel from one spec.namesruns, so Insert, the shelf and History keep working.Done: merged in #1331 (D330, D331; lane 6l).
name_offers), and never one that's an existing page title or alias.namesruns, so Insert, the shelf and History work. The prefetch pool is gone..title,.body) and one slow-runner test race, all fixed.Follow-ups, not filed yet:
audio_service.Ratings on the feedback site keep tuning the lists.